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IAOP Chapter: Governance

Webinar held on July 25, 2011

A virtual meeting of the IAOP Governance Chapter, chaired by Vantage Partners and AT&T, was held in conjunction with the IAOP Contracting Process Chapter, chaired by Mayer Brown LLP, on Monday, July 25.

Renegotiation: Threat, or Opportunity?


Renegotiation, whether formal or informal, is a fact of life for most outsourcing arrangements. Business needs and priorities shift, capabilities change, market conditions evolve... and existing deals need to evolve to keep pace. The way you structure your contract and govern your ongoing relationship can have a significant impact on whether renegotiations become a threat to be avoided, or an opportunity for both sides to achieve greater value.

In this special joint meeting, chapter chairs Brad Peterson, Partner, Mayer Brown, and Sara Enlow, Principal, Vantage Partners, shared some perspective on the link between contracting and governance, and how each impacts (and is impacted by) renegotiations. Bring your questions and experiences for this special round table discussion.

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LEAD ORGANIZATIONS

AT&T

LEADERSHIP

Jack Peterson, Co-Chair
Director
AT&T

PRIMARY PURPOSE

According to a recent IAOP survey, Governance is the top challenge facing outsourcing professionals today.  Outsourcing Governance is a complicated topic, encompassing a range of issues from performance and change management, to staffing and skills, to metrics and incentives to mindset and culture.

MEETING FREQUENCY

Quarterly

MEETING TYPE

Web-based (webinar); Teleconference

NON-SOLICITATION POLICY

All IAOP Chapters adhere to the non-solicitation policy. Click here to view the policy.


Past Meetings

LAST 10 MEETINGS

Meeting held January 12, 2011

The IAOP Governance Chapter, chaired by Vantage Partners and AT&T, held a webinar on Wednesday, January 12, 2011.

Getting the right governance structure in place and ensuring that it is functioning in the way it should is both critical and tricky. Who should be involved, and how? How do you ensure that you have the right structure for the particular needs of your deal? How do you get from governance on paper to governance in action? What is needed to move beyond a focus on day-to-day operations toward a more strategic focus? 

Chapter co-chairs AT&T and Vantage Partners, welcomed our special guest, Kenny Markford, Sourcing Manager with Astra Zeneca, for a lively conversation on the topic of maximizing the potential of your deal through effective governance.

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Meeting held November11, 2010

The IAOP Governance Chapter, chaired by Vantage Partners and AT&T, held a webinar on Thursday, November 11, 2010

"Remediating troubled outsourcing relationships"

The inability to get underperforming outsourcing relationships back on track results in significant value loss. In a recent Vantage Partners survey, half of respondents said issues in their relationship had not been fully addressed. Effective remediation in outsourcing relationships requires a mechanism for identifying when there are issues that need to be addressed, a tool for diagnosing the causes of underperformance, and a process for developing and gaining alignment around changes to make to the relationship. Attend the Governance Chapter's upcoming remediation webinar to learn how some buyers and providers are successfully remediating their outsourcing relationships, resulting in increased customer satisfaction and quality improvements.

Our special guests were John Brodersen, Senior Counsel with Kimberly-Clark Corporation, and Chris Long, Chief Operating Officer with StayWell Health Management.  

Sara Enlow and Joseph Bubman of Vantage Partners moderated this session.
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Meeting held August 19, 2010


A meeting of the IAOP New England Chapter, chaired by Foley & Lardner, John Hancock Financial Services and Insigma HengTian Software Ltd, was held in conjunction with the IAOP Governance Chapter, chaired by Vantage Partners, on Thursday, August 19, 2010, from 3:30 to 6:30 pm at the Foley & Lardner offices at 111 Huntington Avenue, 26th floor, Boston, MA; and was available to guests worldwide through the IAOP webinar network. 

Agenda

Introductions, chapter business

Vendor Spotlight

"Top 5" Supplier Relationship Management Terms to Include in Your Outsourcing Agreements”
Matt Karlyn, Foley & Lardner LLP

Panel Discussion “Managing Supplier Relationships to Create Value and  Maximize Results in Outsourcing Transactions”
Danny Ertel, Partner, Vantage Partners
Tim McCrudden, CGI, Inc. 
Gregory Cozzens, Procurement Solutions Specialist, Oracle
Kevin Sieck, Director of Business Development, hisoft, Inc.
Moderator: Matt Karlyn, 
Foley & Lardner LLP

Networking Reception 
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Meeting held June 8, 2010


There was a joint meeting of the New York Chapter, chaired by Morrison & Foerster, Governance Chapter, chaired by Vantage Partners and the Outsourcing Tools and Technology Chapter, co-chaired by AmexAT&TBeyondCoreGSOS and Wipro on June 8, 2010, from 3:00 to 7:00 PM hosted by Morrison & Foerster, LLP. 

Using Tools to Assist Governance of Outsourcing Relationships

Governance of outsourcing relationships requires frequent communication, coordinated escalation and resolution of issues, and joint agreement on how to measure successes and failures. Governance can be greatly enhanced by the use of tools that support the parties’ efforts.

Who should bring these tools to the table? The service provider? The customer? Both? How can the customer assure consistency of management across multiple service providers? What is the state of the art for products in this space?

Service providers, customers, tool providers and advisors addressed best practices in rationalizing the governance of outsourcing relationships. Whether you are concerned with management of ongoing relationships or are contemplating new deals, you need to keep up with developments in this area.
 

Agenda:

Joint Chapter meeting kick-off
Julian Millstein, Morrison & Foerster, New York Chapter Chair

Sourcing Relationship Management - Trends and Directions in Tools & Technologies in Outsourcing/Shared Services
Matt Shocklee, GSOS, Outsourcing Tools & Technology Chapter Co-chair

Customer case study on use/impact of tools and technology as it relates to governance in outsourcing relationships

Intro to Panel Discussion
“How do tools support effective management of outsourcing relationships? Can they hinder effective conversations?”
Danny Ertel, Vantage Partners, Governance Chapter Chair

Panel Discussion 
“Use and Future of Tools and Technology in Governance in Outsourcing Relationships”
Moderator: Danny Ertel, Vantage Partners, Governance Chapter Chair

Chapter Wrap-Up Discussion

Networking Reception
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Meeting held March 5, 2010

A meeting of the IAOP Governance Chapter which is chaired by Vantage Partners was held on Friday, March 5, 2010.

“Thriving Under Pressure - Advice for managing outsourcing relationships during tough economic times”

Today's challenging economic environment has put significant strain on outsourcing relationships. Customer PMO teams and retained staff are challenged to do more with less and continue to demonstrate value, and many providers have seen their margins whittled down significantly while their customers' expectations only continue to rise. In the face of these difficulties, it's easy for both sides to point fingers at one another, and do their best to push the pressure on to their partner. But doing so usually only creates more problems than it alleviates.

The webinar featured a lively panel discussion about the pressures facing outsourcing relationships today, the challenges that arise as a result, and what buyers and providers can do to work more effectively together through those pressures. Our special guests will be:

Leslie Bleke, Offshore Manager, Worldwide Sourcing, 
Allstate
Rich Etzkorn, SVP, Cassidy Turley
Paul Roy, Partner - Business and Technology Sourcing Practice, Mayer Brown

Vantage Partners' Sara Enlow moderated the discussion.
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Meeting held August 7, 2009

A meeting of the IAOP Governance Chapter, chaired by Vantage Partners, was held as a joint virtual meeting with the IAOP Central America Chapter hosted by Chris Disher & Associates. It was held on Friday, August 7, 2009 from 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. EDT.

Chapter chairs Danny Ertel of Vantage Partners and Chris Disher of Chris Disher & Associates discussed “Managing Cultural Differences in Offshore Relationships.” The meeting opened with a few comments from the chapter chairs about outsourcing governance and then they shared results from the Vantage Partners Offshoring Relationship Management study to set up a discussion on the following questions: What are the most significant cultural differences between customers and providers in Central America offshoring relationships? How do those differences impact the challenges customers and providers face in managing their Central America offshoring relationships? What mechanisms are most effective for managing cultural differences and challenges?

Three special panelists shared their experiences on how customers and providers in Latin America offshoring relationships can effectively manage cultural differences.

Panelists:
Steve Rudderham, VP - Client Engagement, Capgemini
Mauricio Velasquez, Commercial and BDVP, Teledatos S.A.
Julia V. Santos, Director- Worldwide Strategic Outsourcing, 
Johnson & Johnson Group of Consumer Companies
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Meeting held – May 20, 2009

This meeting of the IAOP Governance Chapter hosted by Vantage Partners was held as a joint virtual meeting with the IAOP India (Delhi) Chapter which is chaired by Lawscribe, Inc. 

Chapter chairs Danny Ertel of Vantage Partners and Kunoor Chopra of Lawscribe discussed “Managing Cultural Differences in Offshore Relationships.”  Each offshore location faces its own unique challenges – participants found out what they are in India (Delhi) and how to best manage them.  The meeting opened with a few comments from the chapter chairs about outsourcing governance and then they shared results from the Vantage Partners Offshoring Relationship Management study to set up a discussion on the following questions:  What are the most significant cultural differences between customers and providers in India offshoring relationships?  How do those differences impact the challenges customers and providers face in managing their India offshoring relationships?  What mechanisms are most effective for managing cultural differences and challenges?

Panelists Godfrey Pinto, Director of Offshore Outsourcing at Gtech Corporation, and Gary M Zeiss, Esq., Vice President of Corporate Transactional Group at LawScribe,  shared customer and provider perspectives on effectively managing cultural differences and challenges to achieve maximum value in offshoring deals.

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Meeting held – April 22, 2009

This Governance Chapter webinar was a collaborative effort with the Malaysia Chapter.  

Chapter Chairs, Danny Ertel of Vantage Partners and Bobby Varanasi of Outsourcing Malaysia hosted this hour long session and welcomed panelists Francis Meganathan, managing director of Cuscapi Berhad and Manoj Menon, partner & managing director from Frost & Sullivan.  Ertel & Varanasi led a discussion on the topic of “Managing Cultural Differences in Offshore Relationships.”  Participants gained insight into the unique challenges faced in Malaysia and how to best manage them.  Members may review the webinar recording and download the presentation by clicking on the Chapter Presentations link in our Knowledge Center.
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Meeting held - March 9, 2009

A Governance Chapter webinar, hosted by Vantage Partners, was held on Monday, March 9, 2009.  

During this hour-long session, participants learned about “Outsourcing Health Checks:  How to Capture Additional Value Midway Through the Deal.”  Having achieved initial cost savings and survived transition, many customers learn that “stability” equates with “no new value.” Most companies lack a plan for capturing additional value during the remainder of their outsourcing deals, and as a result, end up squandering the opportunity to leverage lessons learned from the first couple of years of the relationship to improve results during the second half of the contract term. 

Chapter Chair, Danny Ertel of Vantage Partners introduced special guest Rene Herlaar, Vodafone Netherlands, who discussed Vodafone’s experience creating significant value midway through a deal by conducting a Health Check that enabled both parties to identify, diagnose, and address value-leaking deficiencies in areas such as innovation, scope management, issue resolution and decision-making.
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Meeting held – January 20, 2009

The Governance and East China (Shanghai City) Chapter’s held a combined webinar, hosted by Vantage Partners and Bleum, Inc, on Tuesday, January 20, 2009.

At this value-packed meeting entitled “Managing Cultural Differences in Offshore Relationships.” Danny Ertel, Governance Chapter Chair, opened with a few comments about outsourcing governance and then shared results from Vantage Partners’ new Offshore Relationship Management Survey which set up a discussion on the following questions: What are the most significant challenges that customers and providers face in managing their offshore relationships? How do those challenges differ from challenges in onshore deals? What cultural differences present significant challenges? How do those challenges differ by geography?  What are the unique challenges in offshoring to China? What are customers and providers doing to meet those challenges? Eric Rongley, East China-Shanghai City Chapter Chair, followed with an update on his chapter. 

Then Andy Wang, ODC Manager from Bleum, Inc, and Joe Olson, Vice President Product Development from Red Prairie, joined Danny and Eric for an exciting discussion.  Joe shared a customer’s perspective on the challenges in offshoring to China and some mechanisms for dealing with those challenges.  Further, Andy described how service providers can manage the unique challenges presented in offshore relationships.  The webinar concluded with a Q&A session.  It was a very informative and insightful session.  If you are an IAOP member and were not able to join us, you may visit our Knowledge Center and review the recording.

ALL OTHER MEETINGS

Governance Forum - September 9, 2008

The IAOP Governance Chapter hosted the 2008 IAOP Governance Forum at the Marriott Chicago, located on the Magnificent Mile in Downtown Chicago.  This one day forum covered the various aspects of outsourcing governance and was specifically designed to help you achieve greater value from your outsourcing engagements. 
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Meeting Held – September 4, 2008

The Governance Chapter held a webinar on Thursday, September 4.

Offshore outsourcing presents some interesting and unique challenges in managing relationships across many miles, time zones, languages and cultures. Our discussion focused on “Offshore Governance – Lessons From Experience,” and our panel of speakers included Timothy Campos, chief information officer for KLA-Tencor, Dale Christopherson, COP and PMO director, global sourcing for Lawson Software, Alan Arenson, Information Officer, Vendor Management for AXA Equitable and Greg Shaw, Senior Vice President Globalization PMO for State Street Corporation.  This dynamic discussion was moderated by Sara Parker Enlow of Vantage Partners.

Panelists shared their experiences of managing offshore outsourcing relationships, including challenges and best practices. 
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Meeting held - Tuesday, June 10, 2008

The latest Governance Chapter Webinar was held on Tuesday, June 10.  

Our second knowledge sharing session in 2008 addressed the topic of “Making Governance Operational.”

Outsourcing governance is about much more than boxes and lines on an organization chart.  Effective governance requires a clear set of processes for managing a myriad of activities from the contract, to performance, to consumption, to joint planning.  While many companies acknowledge the need for some processes for managing their relationships, they often don’t do a good job at putting them into practice, or they don’t recognize the need for some processes until a problem has already arisen. 

Special guests Paul Fox, Vendor Manger from ING Bank, and Ernie Zibert, South Pacific Client Delivery Manager for Hewlett-Packard, shared their experience and expertise in defining governance processes and putting them into practice. 
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January 23, 2008 – Chairman’s Summary

The most recent IAOP Governance Chapter meeting was held via webinar on January 23, 2008 and focused on remediation and renegotiation. Thank you to our guest speakers, Neil Hirshman from Kirkland & Ellis and Doug Plotkin from PA Consulting. 

The fourth webinar in the series on Governance Across the Life Cycle, addressed the remediation of problems and the renegotiation of contracts. It looked at some of the typical problems that buyers and providers face in a mature relationship and some strategies for addressing them and making the necessary adjustments going forward.

Danny Ertel, chair of the Governance Chapter framed up the key challenges faced by parties in a troubled relationship and facilitated a discussion with guest panelists Neil and Doug.

In addition a short document to be available at the Governance Chapter Open House at the Outsourcing World Summit in February.

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Fifth Meeting: November 8, 2007

The IAOP’s Governance Chapter held its fifth meeting on Thursday, November 8, 2007 and discussed the topic of “Decision-Making Rights & Responsibilities: Beyond the Basics.”  The meeting was moderated by Danny Ertel, Chair of the Governance Chapter and Partner at Vantage Partners. Danny hosted special guests Marni Dicker, VP of Business Affairs and Corporate Legal Counsel for SNC-Lavalin Profac, and Ron Barbera, Executive Consultant, Relationship Alignment Solutions for IBM Global Technology Services.

Danny opened with thoughts on why it is important to get clear on rights and responsibilities for decision making and why this is a key aspect of outsourcing governance and relationship management. Danny highlighted the D-I-C-N (Decision Driver, Inform, Consult, Negotiate) framework as one approach to clarifying roles and responsibilities for decision making.

Marni Dicker from SNC-Lavalin Profac explained why decision making can be complicated when there are various types of agreement models and type of contracts. Marni also emphasized the importance of strong relationships regardless of the details of the contract, as trust and credibility play a role in all decisions.

Ron Barbera from IBM’s Relationship Alignment Solutions group discussed challenges that can arise when the contract actually dictates who makes the decisions - such as when decision makers are only the ones who sit at the top of the organization. Ron talked about why that’s not always the best approach and it can be beneficial for decisions to be spread out among different roles and responsibilities within a defined framework.

The meeting concluded with a series of useful follow-up questions including: 

What can you do up front and early in the relationship launch to establish clear decision making roles and responsibilities?

What have been the big pitfalls or challenges related to clarifying decision rights and authority?  What’s your advice for avoiding or mitigating those problems?

Are buyers aware of these types of decision making issues and how are they reacting to them during the selection process?

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Fourth Meeting – July 16, 2007

The fourth IAOP Governance Chapter meeting, moderated by Danny Ertel, was held on Monday, July 16th, beginning at 11:30am EDT.  Danny opened the meeting by sharing some thoughts on why the parties need to begin to put in place effective governance and relationship management early, rather than wait until steady-state.  

Karl Boone, a member of PA Consulting’s Management team and Certified Outsourcing Professional instructor, then shared some advice on what outsourcing customers need to have in place in order to enable a smooth transition, including:

  • A realistic transition plan
  • Governance processes (e.g., for change requests, communication, risk management, etc.) that are well-understood and agreed by both parties
  • A Service Management Organization that is aligned between the customer and supplier
  • A plan for stakeholder management
  • Rapid ramp up of resources
  • Joint understanding of the technical solution


Karl also shared some critical steps customers should take, and potential challenges/pitfalls to watch out for during transition.  

We then heard from Nadia Johnson, an experienced manager with Pfizer who is responsible for making governance happen through transition day-in and day-out.  Nadia shared her perspective on critical steps to take during transition, possible challenges, and the importance of getting started early with governance.

The webinar then concluded with a robust Q&A and closing comments, with Nadia, Danny, and Karl sharing their perspective on questions such as:

  • Given how busy transition is, how do you get the necessary attention on creating a Service Management Organization (SMO) early on?
  • How do you set the tone for appropriate escalation (given that different companies have different views of escalation, depending on their cultures)?
  • How quickly can vendors realistically ramp up their side of the SMO?
  • Where do good metrics come from for the transition phase?
  • How do you strike the right balance between relationship building between both sides and getting right level of escalation?
  • How can you enable new SMO team members to transition into their new roles?



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